Quesnel mayor censured, banned from First Nation's land

The mayor of Quesnel, B.C., has been stripped of many of his duties and barred from entering land belonging to multiple First Nations in and aroundhis community.

On Tuesday night, Quesnel's city council voted unanimously to censure Ron Paull and impose multiple restrictions on his ability to represent the city.

The decision is in response to reportsPaull's wife has given out copiesof a controversial book about residential schoolsto people in the community and that Paull himself had offered the book to other elected officials at a local government meeting.

In response, the Lhtako Dene, Nazko andLhoosk'uz Den First Nations have said they willrefuseto work with Paull, who is also no longer welcome on land belonging to theLhtako Dene.

The story thrust the community ofroughly 23,000 people, located about 400 kilometres north of Vancouver, into the national spotlight as a flash point in the ongoing conversation about residential schools and Canada's efforts at reconciliation with Indigenous communities.

But Paullsays while he may have made an error in judgment, he has no plans to leave his position.

"I have four loves," he said at this week's meeting. "My wife Pat, my family and friends, my wonderful community of Quesnel, and my faith.... I wholeheartedly intend on continuing giving back to my community."

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Quesnel city council has voted unanimously to censure Mayor Ron Paull, claiming he damaged relations with First Nations. Paull's wife distributed a book that local First Nations say minimizes the harms of residential schools.

Paull will continue to serve as mayor, as there is no formal mechanism to force elected officials to resign. He will also continue to chair council meetings.

However, council has formally condemned his actions, removed himfrom severalcommittees, removed his travel budget and will not allow him to act as their representative with First Nations or other external groups.

They have also asked him to issue a formalapology, something thathe has so far not done.

Coun. Tony Goulet said the steps were necessary to restore Quesnel's relationship with First Nations.

"If we don't have a working relationship with all Indigenous communities, we're gonna be in trouble," he said.

Other councillors expressed concern they would not be able to successfully apply for grantsor enter partnerships with other levels of government or contractors without taking strong action.

"Our reputation internationally is being damaged on a colossal scale," said Coun. Scott Elliott. "All the work that we've done to rebrand this city has been demolished."

Council voted to revisit the sanctions in90 days.

In an interview with CBC News after the meeting, Lhtako Dene band administratorMaynard Bara said his nation was pleased with council's decision and saidfrom his perspective, "It's back to business as usual."

"It's great to see that city council did the right thing here and now we can move forward," said Bara, addingthe past several weeks have been painful.

Quesnel has taken major steps in working withthe Lhtako Dene,starting with a 2015 agreement thatformally acknowledgedthe nationas partners upon whose land the city was built.

In the years since, it has taken other steps toward what it calls "true reconciliation," which includerestoring ownership of a downtown park to the First Nationandbeing the first city to officially co-host the B.C. Winter Games with an Indigenous community earlier this year.

Book given out by mayor's wife

Tuesday's decision cameafter several weeks of controversy thatstarted at a council meeting held March 19, with a letter of concern from the Lhtako Dene First Nation.

According to the letter, a person related to a member of council who Paull would reveal was his wife had been giving out copies of a book titledGrave Error: How the Media Misled Us (and the Truth about Residential Schools).

The book is a series of essays edited byC.P. Champion and Tom Flanagan, described by its publisher as challengingseveral assertions made about the harms of residential schools.

In publicity material for the book, publishersTrue North and Dorchester Bookssaystatements that residential schools traumatized Indigenous people across generations and destroyed Indigenous languages and culture are either "totally false or grossly exaggerated."

The book is particularly critical of media reports on theTk'emlps te Secwpemc First Nation which, in 2021, announced preliminary findings of ground-penetrating radar work at the former Kamloops Residential School.

The nation has said they found anomalies thatcould be unmarked graves of children who attended the school, while clarifying that that possibility had yet to be confirmed.

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However, the book points outmany reports from media and other entities failed to include that context, which the authorssay have helped shape a false public narrative of what happened at residential schools.

While some of the essays acknowledge abuse and harm to some children, others challenge the veracity of survivor's accounts as well as the belief thatthe residential school systemamounted to cultural genocide in its attempt to assimilate Indigenous people, as determined by the federally-appointed Truth and Reconciliation Commission of Canada.

That commission heard testimony from more than 6,000 attendees of residential schools across the country, documenting stories of physical, sexual and psychological abuse, harsh punishments and malnourishment.

The letter from the Lhtako Denesaid, weighed against that testimony,the essays inGrave Error amountto"a slap in our people's collective faces" by denying or minimizing the harms of residential schools that many of its members personally experienced and which are still felt within the community.

In response, Quesnelcouncil, including Paull, voted to denounce the book and reaffirm their relationship with the Lhtako Dene.

Paull said at the meeting he had not personally read the book and that he does not always share the same opinions as his wife.

Controversy grows

However, that did not quell the backlash and on April 2 more than 200 people marched outside Quesnel city hall and calledon the mayor to resign.

Inside, elders spoke of their own experiences at residential schools while Lhtako DeneChief Clifford Lebruntold council his nation could no longer work with the city until the matter was resolved, a position reiterated by other First Nations in the region.

That notice led to this week's decision by council to formally distance themselves from the mayor.

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Paull opened the discussion about the possibility of beingcensuredwith a statement, saying the anger toward him was "all based on a misunderstanding."

"I was accused of handing out and distributing the book," he said. "I have not readthe book."

In a written statement to CBC News, Cariboo Regional District Chair Margo Wagner said that in her recollection of events, "Mayor Paull had a copy of the book and asked me if I was interested in reading the book as it was an interesting read. I politely declined and said I was not interested and walked away from the conversation."

100 Mile House Mayor Maureen Pinkney gave a similar response in an interview with the Quesnel Cariboo Observer, in which she is quoted saying Paull "casually asked if I was familiar with the book and did I want to read it?"

Paull has not responded to interview requests from CBC News, but atthe council meeting he said he was simply trying to use the book as a talking point for discussions aboutwhat sort of literature might or might not be allowed in local libraries.

But Coun. Laurey-Anne Roodenburgsaid the issue had moved beyond the book itself.

"I don't care if you read the book I bought it online and I want my money back," she said.

"It's about leadership and what's transpired as a leader."

She and other councillors expressed disappointment that Paull's story around whether he had ever recommended the book had changed over the weeks, and questioned if he was being truthful.

Councillors also spoke about the amount of scrutiny the episode had placed on them under.

"It has taken a toll," saidGoulet. "We're all getting calls, we're getting emails."

Coun. Debra McKelvie said she had experienced multiple sleepless nights.

Lhtako Dene's Maynard Bara said he andChief CliffordLeBrun had also been getting "hate mail" from people who disagreed with the decision from the First Nation and Quesnel's council.

Among those who have been critical is Grave Error editor and contributor Tom Flanagan, who wrote that what was happening in Quesnel is similar to "totalitarian societies" accusing its members of "thought-crime," while fellow editor C.P. Champion argued in a press release that council is "preventing the truth from coming out."

But Goulet reiterated council never attempted to ban the book or prevent anyone from reading it.

"To me, denouncing waswe weren't going to promote the book. We weren't going to talk about it. We were going to leave it at that."

Goulet and the rest of council expressed hope that Paull would eventually apologize and his duties could be restored, but said that decision would not be made without first consulting First Nations.