Surrey Mayor Doug McCallum says he's still the man for the job despite criminal charge and council unrest

It's been a turbulent week in civic politics in Surrey, B.C., with Mayor Doug McCallumamid it all.

McCallum delivered his state of the city address Wednesday, justtwo days after a packed council meeting was cut short amid calls for himto resign.

The mayor didn't heed the calls, but did announce Wednesdaythat hewill step aside as chair of the Surrey Police Board until after the municipal elections in October.

McCallum is due to go on trial foralleged public mischiefa little more than two weeks after voters go to the polls. He ischargedwith one count of public mischief after filinga police report claiming he was struck by a car in a parking lotby Debi Johnstoneone of seven opponents of his plans for a municipal police forcewho McCallum has banned fromcouncil meetings.

The charge relates to allegations of false statements being madewith the intention of misleading police officers.

The allegations have not been proven in court but have prompted calls for him to resign as mayor from both voters and some city councillors.

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McCallum says he has no plans to leave city hall. Removing himself from the upcoming police board meetings has nothing to do with his pending court case everything to do with arecent recommendationfrom the Special Committee on Reforming the Police Actthat mayorsshould not chair municipal police boards, he said.

The mayorspoke with CBC'sThe Early Edition host Stephen Quinnon Thursday morningabout the controversy surrounding him and the latest happenings at Surrey City Hall.

The following transcript has been edited for clarity and length.

Why have you decided to step aside as the chair of the police board?

I haven't stepped aside as chair, I'm not allowed under the Police Act,I just won't be chairing the next two board meetings. About six months ago, I pulled off of all the committees I was on on the police board because the board is very effective and can handle itself without me.

What is the difference between stepping aside and being absent from the meetings?

I still am the police chairpersonand continue to have all the authority that that brings to that job, I just will be absent.

You say this has nothing to do with your criminal mischief charge, so whywill you be absent?

Two reasons. One, that I have been pulling back on police board meetings. The second is a provincial legislation bodysuggests that beingmayor and chairman of the board are in conflict and I have been saying that from Day 1.

You put yourself in a very big conflict because the city funds the police board, which takes that money and provides services. Iactually put a lot of input into that recommendation [that mayorsshould not chair municipal police boards] and believestrongly that mayors and chairs of police boards are in conflict.

Were you at any point asked to step down or to step aside by other members of the police board?

I'm not going to go into any of the confidential information we have in our meetings.

Global News reported that the police board itself asked you to step down as chair. Is that accurate?

I'm still not going to make any comments of in-camera discussions.

So, you're saying that you've stepped aside because you recognize there's a conflict?

Yes.

After the election, will you go back to chairing the police board?

I probably won't because I believe strongly against it. But, unfortunately, because of the Police Act now, I have to be chair and I have to carry that authority. That's the law and I have to abide by it.

Several councillors have called for you to step aside as mayor until the charge of public mischief that you're facing has been concluded in court. You have so far refused. Why?

I'm not going to make any comments on the charge, but I am also going to stay on as mayor. There is no legislation that says I cannot and I have had tremendous support in the community asking me to carry on and run the city, and I intend to. We have over42 major infrastructure projects happening and our city is the fastest growing in Canada.

Do you understand, mayor, though, why voters might be concerned aboutan elected official stayingin a position withpending criminal charges against them?

I understand the feelings of the people but, in Surrey,it's only a very small group called Keep the RCMP. When I'm out in the street, I get tremendous support to carry on. I don't want to get into any comments about the court case, but I feel very strongly thatI can stay on and that the majority wants me to.

You recently cut off speakers at a public hearing and, in September,Surrey council banned seven pro-RCMP individuals from attending council meetings.Is that an acceptable way of engaging with the public?

Those seven are part of the Keep the RCMPgroup and they have harassed constantly the last three years.They have over a dozen ongoing police investigations againstthem for harassment. Theyneed to sit back and alsolisten toother people in the city. They want it only one way, but the majority in any democratic city is how acity runs and we got elected really to change our police.

But do you not have an obligation to also engage with people who don'tagree with you?

If they are polite and follow the rules and don't swear and don't interrupt. These people don't listen and they shout. If people follow procedures, I listen. We developed infrastructure and transit by listening to the people and saying if you elect us we will get it done.

Do you believe you still have the majority of support from Surrey voters?

Yes.

What do you think voters think about your court date being after the election?

I would love to have it now but the courts are full. We tried to get in earlier andif I had my wish it would be tomorrow.

CBCNewsasked Mike Farnworth,Ministryof Public Safety and Solicitor General, to verify if McCallum'sinterpretation of the Police Act is accurate. The act says that the mayor of a council is the chair of a municipal police board and, if absent or unable to act, that the board must elect another chair among themselves.

According to Farnworth, under the current law,the mayor isn't required to step down from the police board and it is a decision McCallum "obviously made himself."