Michael Applebaum's former top aide says informing on boss took emotional toll

Michael Applebaum's former political aide suffered from depression and struggled with his role helping police gather information on Applebaum and his network of contacts, a Quebec court has learned.

Hugo Tremblay worked as Applebaum's political aide and later chief of staff between 2006 and 2012, when Applebaum was the mayor of Montreal's Cte-des-NeigesNotre-Dame-de-Grce borough.

Applebaumison trial forconspiracy, breach of trust and two forms of corruption: municipal corruption and fraud on the government. All the charges date back to his time as borough mayor.

Tremblay, a key witness for the prosecution, was cross-examined by defence lawyer Pierre Teasdale on Wednesday.

The former political aide acknowledged it was difficult for him to wear a hidden microphone to help investigators in the spring of 2013, while pretending to carry on as if everything was normal.

"It upset me," Tremblay testified.

'Human spirit is complex'

In court, the defence lawyer read out a text message Tremblaysent to investigator Luc Lamyin May 2013, just a few weeks before Applebaum was arrested.

"It went well. The man was friendly," the text message said, in French.

Tremblay testified he was likely referring to his session with a psychologist, to whom he'd been referred to by police.

The defence asked why, if it was so difficult for him to turn against his former boss, did he continue to help investigators?

"The human spirit is complex," Tremblay answered.

Applebaum has always maintained his innocence.

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Earlier this week, Tremblay told the court that it was Applebaum who taught him to ask real estate promoters and engineering firms for cash in exchange for approving their projects.

Years later, after Applebaum had climbed the political ladder to the Montreal mayor's office, Tremblay said he received a call from anti-corruption investigators.

After some initial resistance, the former aide said he eventually agreed to help their investigation by wearing a wire on two occasions in May 2013and participating in a phone wiretap in June 2013.

Conversations between Applebaum and Tremblay were used as evidence in court

8 years ago

Duration 1:13

Applebaum is charged with conspiracy, breach of trust and two forms of corruption: municipal corruption and fraud on the government.

'Thanks, Dad,' witness jokes to investigator

On Wednesday, during cross-examination, the defence lawyer also questioned Tremblay about the close relationship he developed with the police investigator during that period.

Teasdalelisted off dozens of text messages between the witness and the investigator, some of them about dinners out together, birthday wishes and other topics unrelated to the investigation.

In one of those exchanges on June 21, 2013, days after Applebaum was arrested, the court heard that LamytextedTremblayto recommend the film Django Unchained.

Tremblayreplied to say that he was at the beach, and Lamyreminded him to wear sunscreen.

"Thanks Dad," Tremblaywrote back, jokingly.

"No problem son," Lamy answered.

Tremblay acknowledged it was "a good relationship" andexplained it was a difficult period for him when he agreed to turn on his former boss and help police. He said he felt comfortable speaking to Lamy.

'They have to have the money'

Three different audio recordings from the spring of 2013 were played in court on Tuesday.

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Applebaum does not admit to wrongdoing in any of those recordings, but there's a contrast between his manner of speaking in what he believed to beprivate conversationsandthe public version of the mayor Montrealersknew.

In the recording, Tremblay explainsto Applebaum that he was interrogated by policeand that he's worried.

Applebaum reassures him and says:"They can come up all kinds of lies but in the end they have to have the money.

"In order to charge you, [they've] got to see the money," he says.

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The following is the audio from a June 10, 2013 phone call between Applebaum and Tremblay that took place over a wiretapped phone from a Montreal police station.

Audio from Michael Applebaum's recorded phone calls

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Duration 5:25

Audio from Michael Applebaum's recorded phone calls