Want to understand the problems with minimum wage? Talk to people who earn it

There are more than a million Canadians who work minimum wage jobs they make up 8 per centof the country's salaried employees.

The hourly rate they earn varies across the country, from a low of $10.85in Nova Scotia,to Alberta where the minimum wage is set to increase to $15in October 2018. The rate in Ontario rose to $14 on Jan. 1.

Numbers and statistics aside, one of the best ways to understand the issues around minimum wage is to talk to the people who earn it.

The National's Nick Purdon and Leonardo Pallejawent to St. Francis Tablein Toronto,a restaurant for the poor where meals cost $1.The restaurant is run by the Capuchin Franciscan Friars of Central Canada and has servedmore than a million meals since itopened in 1987. The homeless, people on social assistance and seniors have traditionally been the main customers, butthe Friars are increasingly seeing people on minimum wage frequenting St. Francis Table.

Here are three of them, talking about the realities of working hard and trying to live onminimum wage.

Kevin Johnson, 37, temp agency worker

Nick Purdon: You don't live nearby. Tell me why you come to St. Francis Table to eat.

Kevin:I come here just to save a little money, so I can keep a roof over my head first of all and to keep my gym membership. Because without my gym membership I would get very depressed, so I wanna keep that going.

Purdon: What's the temp job you are doing?

Johnson: I work in a plant and it's overnight.

It's like a factory that makes boxes. You put the cardboard in this big machine and it makes boxes and they get shipped to whoever the client is. It's a very boring, very repetitive job.

I am thinking, 'I took a travel and tourism course, why am I having to do this? Is this all that life has in store for me? Am I always gonna be working these crappy jobs?' I want something better.

Purdon: What do you think people across the country don't understand about people who work aminimum wage job?

Johnson: What they don't understand is how tough it is, and how it is so difficult to budget your money.

And not knowing if you are gonna eat. I have hardly been eating, too. I can't even afford food right now, I am so broke.

A couple of days last week I didn't eat at all. I just went to work, drank lots of waterand didn't eat, because I am waiting for my next paychequeto come in.

Purdon: What are some of the choices you have to make?

Johnson: I need a warmer jacket. This jacket is OKfor milder winter days. But when it gets really coldlike when we had that cold snap, I was freezing in this thing and I was thinking, well, I can't afford to buy another jacket.

And the problem is that with this job that I have, I'm taking the night bus as far west as I can and then I'mhaving to walk for an hour in the freezing cold, because I cannot afford to take a cab to come home.

Purdon: What's it like to say that?You have a full time job, you work hard ...

Johnson: And I have nothing to show for it.I feel terrible. It makes me feel awful, like I have no purpose in life.

I hate that, because I see other people and I get jealous.

Sometimes I go for little walks on Friday or Saturday nights downtown and I see other people, and they are going out to restaurants or bars, having a nice dinner. I'm looking at thatwhy can't I have that? What am I doing wrong?

There's got to be something I am doing wrong that these people are doing right.

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Kevin Johnson

7 years ago

Duration 1:18

Kevin Johnson

YusdelAmaro, 35, cook and part-time City of Torontoworker

Nick Purdon: How do you get by?

YusdelAmaro: Well, foryears and years and years I worked sevendays a week. It was like that up until recently, thenI just decided that for [the sake of]$100 or $200 onapaychequeI needed a day off.

So I decided to take Sundays off. And I just can't wait for Sundays, after working almost 15 years in a row sevendays a week.

It's tough. It's tough ... just paying bills.

Purdon: What are the hard choices you make based on how much money you make?

Amaro: Hard choices? There are plenty.

But the tough one for me would be not being able to just support my family in Cuba.

Purdon:What do you think about Ontario raising the minimum wage to $14an hour?

Amaro:I just wish I was getting paid more. Now that they are going to make it$14, I think that is an improvement, but I don't think it's going to solve any major problems in anybody's life, especially with prices going up.

Purdon: It's been very hard to get people to talk to us about living on minimum wage. Why do you think that is?

Amaro:Society thinks if you make minimum wage, you are less. So people might have that sentiment of guarding their pride.

Purdon: How about you?

Amaro:Me, it's just reality. It is what it is. Nobody else is paying my bills.

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Yusdel Amaro

7 years ago

Duration 1:01

Yusdel Amaro

Peter Jecchinis,51, temp agency worker

Nick Purdon: What can you tell me about making minimum wage?

Peter Jecchinis:Well, you can exist,but you can't necessarily "live,"I would say. That's the best way to describe it. You need a little more to get by.

It's tough. You have to really skimp on everything. Clothes. Food.

Purdon: You said you "exist"but you don't "live." What do youmean?

Jecchinis:You can exist. You can get by. You can find ways to get by. But you don't have extra things, and a mandoes not live by bread alone.

You need recreation. You need entertainment. You need a little extra, other than just paying your bills.Why not go to a movie once in a while, why not go to a ballgame once in a while? Is that too much to ask for someone who is putting in [full time] hours, no matter what they are doing for a living?

Purdon: What's something you'd love to buy that you can't afford?

Jecchinis:I'm more a kind of guy who would get some nice clothes. I'm not that materialistic.

Maybe a better phone. Yeah, maybe a better phone.

Simple things like that. I'd maybe go see a ball game once in a while. Once a year something like that.

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Peter Jecchinis

7 years ago

Duration 0:49

Peter Jecchinis