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Posted: 2024-09-30T21:09:05Z | Updated: 2024-09-30T21:09:05Z

Former NBA player and current podcast host Matt Barnes showed theres a right way to ask Vice President Kamala Harris about her identity as a person of mixed race.

During Mondays episode of his All the Smoke podcast, Barnes asked Harris what she learned as the child of Indian and Jamaican immigrants.

It was a far cry from other questions the vice president has been asked about her racial background, mainly because Barnes, who is himself a mixed-race Black person, wasnt using the kind of false and inflammatory framing embraced by people like former President Donald Trump .

Youve always been secure in your identity, who you are, Barnes said. But what do you feel, or what do you think, when you hear people kind of questioning just the fabric of who you are?

Well, one, I dont listen to it, Harris replied, laughing. Im really clear about who I am. And if anybody else is not, they need to go through their own level of therapy. Thats not my issue.

My mother was very clear. She was raising two Black girls to be two proud Black women. And that was never it was never a question, she went on. You know, its funny, because over the years, journalists some, not most will want to talk about it. And I say: OK, if you want to have this conversation, Im prepared to have it. But sit down and get comfortable for a few hours, if you want to start talking about race in America.

You can see the whole exchange below.

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