Katy Perry has dodged a question about her controversial decision to continue working with disgraced record producer Lukasz Dr. Luke Gottwald.

In case you missed it, the internet slammed the hell out of the pop star earlier this summer when she dropped her Womans World song in July, which was produced by Gottwald, off her new album, 143.

Gottwald was embroiled in a lengthy legal battle with fellow pop star Kesha (real name Kesha Sebert) after she accused him of drugging and raping her.

Gottwald denied the accusations and sued for defamation. The pair eventually settled last year just weeks before a highly anticipated trial was to begin.

Not only did Womans World flop on the Billboard Hot 100 , but Perry also faced backlash from social media users who argued that the songs music video seemingly catered to the male gaze without actually reflecting its feminist lyrics.

While recently appearing on Alex Coopers Call Her Daddy podcast, Perry admitted shes aware her collaboration with Dr. Luke caused a stir.

I understand that it started a lot of conversations, and he was one of many collaborators that I collaborated with. But the reality is it comes from me, Perry said in the episode released Wednesday.

Perry teamed up with the songwriter and record producer for some of her biggest hits, including I Kissed a Girl, Teenage Dream and California Gurls.

The truth is, I wrote these songs from my experience of my whole life going through this metamorphosis, and he was one of the people to help facilitate all that, she said. One of the writers, one of the producers. I am speaking from my own experience.

The Dark Horse crooner then shifted the conversation, telling Cooper that Womans World was inspired by feeling so empowered by her many roles in life as a woman.

When I speak about Womans World, I speak about feeling so empowered now, as a mother, as a woman, giving birth, creating life, creating another set of organs. A brain! A heart! I created a whole-ass heart! And I did it, and Im still doing it, Perry said.

Noting that shes speaking from the perspective of a matriarch and feels really grounded in that, Perry added, I created all of this with several different collaborators, people that Ive collaborated with from the past, from Teenage Dream era. All of that.

In July, Perry responded to the criticism of Womans World while alluding that the video was meant to be satirical.

You can do anything! Even satire! she tweeted on X in a July 13 post, alongside a clip in which she speaks about the Womans World video while standing alongside her background dancers on the set.

Were kind of just having fun, being a bit sarcastic with it, Perry explained in the clip. Its very slapstick and very on the nose.

With this set, its like, Ooh, were not about the male gaze, but we really are about the male gaze, she said at the time. And were really overplaying it and on the nose because Im about to get smashed, which is like a reset a reset for me, and a reset for my idea of feminine divine, and its a whole different world we go to after this. (Midway in the Womans World video, a giant anvil crushes Perry, who gets up in a new location and the song continues.)