Shanna Moakler is opening up about her now-turbulent relationship with her ex-husband Travis Barker.

We dont speak anymore, the former beauty pageant queen, 49, told People in a new interview published Monday. I dont have a relationship with Travis, but I think thats okay. I dont feel like itll be like that forever, but I feel like right now I think thats where we are at in our evolution, and maybe in the future, itll change.

Moakler and the Blink-182 drummer tied the knot in 2004 before calling it quits in 2008. The pair share two children: son Landon, 20, and daughter Alabama, 18. Moakler is also mom to daughter Atiana, 25, with boxer Oscar De La Hoya.

The Meet the Barkers alum said Barker cut her off after she called Barkers now-wife, Kourtney Kardashian, disgusting on the podcast Dumb Blonde back in January. On the show, Moakler accused Barker and the reality star of causing a rift between her and her children.

When Travis got with Kourtney, there was some parental alienation going on there, where Travis even when we werent together always wanted to be the super dad, Moakler told host Bunnie XO.

I removed myself so they couldnt bond with my children over hating me, Moakler went on. Go do what you guys need to do and when youre ready, I will be here loving you unconditionally and I will be here as your mother and I will wait. And thats what I did.