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Posted: 2020-12-01T18:33:38Z | Updated: 2020-12-01T18:52:40Z

The dedication of Fariha Risn s debut novel, Like A Bird , reads: To every survivor. I wrote this for us.

Risn knows a thing or two about survival. In the 10 or so years that Ive known her, I have seen the themes of survival and attaining a good life come up over and over again in our conversations and in her work as a writer and artist. Her book of poetry, How to Cure a Ghost , and newsletter of the same name are centered on exploring identity and what healing looks like as a queer, Muslim femme navigating sexual and emotional trauma. Like A Bird, which was released in September, tells a story about a young woman navigating the aftermath of a traumatic sexual assault and finding community in the process. (Risn began writing the book when she was just 12 years old.)

It seemed natural, then, to open this weekly interview series, Getting Through, with Risn, as we all think deeply about what survival means for us in 2020.

This year has been chaotic and bleak: More than 268,000 people in the United States have lost their lives to a pandemic that has forced many of us into self-imposed isolation. Weve witnessed via our phones, TVs and computer screens natural disasters, toxic political figures, the unjust killings of George Floyd, Breonna Taylor and countless other Black people and so much more devastation.

How do we get through this together and as individuals?

In the coming weeks, Getting Through will explore the ways in which people from all backgrounds and walks of life artists, scientists, entertainers, healers, activists, entrepreneurs and everyday folks are processing, connecting and taking care of themselves and others during these wild times. Hopefully, these conversations will serve as a record and a guide for anyone who reads them.

Below, Risn discusses why she writes to heal, the difficulties of self-care and how shes getting through the last few weeks of 2020 and beyond.

Lets start with probably the most loaded question of 2020, which is how are you?

[Laughs] Oh, my God. I am, in this current moment, good. Im talking to you. Im happy to be doing this. Im grateful to be doing this. Im grateful that anybody wants to hear anything I have to say, and I know you know that. I often forget how vulnerable I am. Im so disparaging to myself because I wish I was stronger, but like, I am not a caricature. Im a person. Sitting with that is really difficult in a time where we are being asked and forced, really to question, Who are we? What do we stand by in this difficult time? Were having to completely shift our paradigms with how we view the world and how we view ourselves.

So much has been coming up during this time about [my] child self, trauma and abuse and grief then also, at the same time, the sublime reality of being alive. I live for relationship, for connection, but I feel my reality is that I am always going to be deeply lonely though. Thats what Im always fighting with. So I think Ive been wrestling with loneliness.

During this time of COVID-19, were all thinking a lot about, as youre saying, our place in the collective, thinking about cultivating community in spite of distance. How are you finding ways to connect with people?

I think a lot of us are finally thinking more expansively about our humanity. And to me, sending and receiving voice notes as much as I hate technology is such a beautiful way that we can communicate. It is such an intimate, epistolary thing, but done through the voice. I am not capable of being a hundred all the time. I just cant. I like isolation too much, and I like being alone too much. So its such a great way to maneuver time. When Im ready, I will listen to the voice notes you send me and then I will get back in an equally thoughtful way. Theres something more intentional about it as well. It doesnt lack intimacy, so its like, its this perfect thing that you can offer somebody, you know?

Where were you mentally, emotionally and physically when COVID started popping off?

I was in love. I was really excited to see my then-boo. And I think I felt incredibly equipped for the year to come.

Youve written a book of poetry, a novel and now a newsletter that all ultimately explore what it means to heal as a person. How has writing helped you process this year?

Im absolutely aided [in healing] 100% of the time by the fact that I can write. That has absolutely, time and time again, proven to be the case. I think this year, having a book that Ive been working on for 18 years come out and to have to sit with that while Im in it, during a pandemic, its forced me to think about time. The synchronicity of time, the mirroring of time, the lapses in time. Were thinking about the ways in which our childhoods have affected us as adults. Were thinking about patterns. And I think theres something really deeply profound about tracking that through my work.

I think a lot about Saidiya Hartmans writing about archival silence shes talking about slavery in particular, but it can be applicable to so much. There is so much archival silence in my cultural lineage. So much that I dont understand that Im almost computing in real time. And then Im having to put it into writing and into work. And that synthesization is, I think, the only way that I have survived this year. Being able to both hold the information that Im getting and not fall apart, which is the natural inclination. Like, I cant do this. This is too much. I dont like this. The amount of uncomfortability that I have had to be in, sustained, to just have it work through me, move through me, so I can process and then write about it. I think thats the only, only way that we can survive this time.

What, if anything, has been the hardest thing youve had to survive this year?

Heartbreak. Immense, undulating heartbreak.

Whats been something really good that has happened this year?

There are so many good things. I mean, my book came out and I, against all odds, have been working on liking myself and really genuinely enjoying my own company and enjoying my work. Having more pride in how I feel about myself and not falling into these old ways of thinking where I am the victim. I dont blame myself for wanting to feel like my life is shit. But this year, perhaps more than ever before, and despite everything that happened to me this year, I feel so energized by myself and by my own resilience. I have a desire to tell the truth. To do the work, to be curious enough, to keep digging, to not feel like its OK, or to accept whatever comes. If theres a plateau, theres a plateau. If theres ups and downs, theres ups and downs. But just accepting that I am on this very interesting path and really trying to find moments of enjoyment has been good.

Youre working on a book of poetry called Survival Takes a Wild Imagination. I love that title and I think it speaks so much to this current moment, because I think a lot of people have been thinking about imagination and imagining new worlds as the current one is burning. Can you tell me what you imagine and what you wish to see in these last few weeks of 2020 and beyond?

I think survivors are the best dream makers because everything has been stripped of us and we continue to believe in something. Thats incredible. And so, I see so much. I see us having to reckon with ourselves as humanity on a large scale, in ways that I dont think people can fully imagine. And we need to believe collectively that its possible. And thats why this year, I became an abolitionist because I believe in freedom for all, but I believe in the possibility of freedom for all. Like truthfully. And I understand that its complex and utopic, but like, thats what makes abolition so incredible. The hope that it instills. Of course we want to fight for that. There is no other way. Im so ready for that work. I know a lot of us are. So that gives me a lot of tenderness for the journey to come. I know we have to evolve as a species, and I think thats going to have to happen. And that means exciting things are going to happen. And that means futures are going to be built that we could only dream of in a Marvel movie, you know. [Laughs] And we should, we have to give up a lot. We owe it to ourselves to do that.

What does self-care look like to you, particularly during this time?

I really am quite bad at self-care, which my therapist reminds me of all the time. These days, the way that I have been caring for myself is validating myself and validating my own story and my own truth and knowing and believing in myself, steadfastly, no matter what small voice pokes through the holes. Im very elegantly telling myself dont listen to that dumbass voice. [Laughs] Fuck that shadow self.

Whats your advice to anyone whos struggling in this moment?

I dont think that we can ever give advice like that which is applicable to everyone. But for those who are ready to look at their shadow selves, I would say, Look, you know, dont let it dictate you. Dont let it overwhelm you or overcome you, but hear what its trying to tell you. I have a very good friend Alex, who is a therapist, and he is also someone I do ayahuasca with. And he works in demon therapy, which is just listening to these ugly, shameful, demonic voices that we all have. Demon therapy is like, What is that voice telling you? What would it say? Theres a difference between listening to your shadow voice being shitty to you and then actually having a conversation with it and being like, What are you trying to tell me? and engaging with it as a being, almost. Rather than [thinking] its something that is overpowering you, what is it trying to signal at you?

What would happen if you were to be nice to that demon? Maybe that demon is just wanting some attention. Its feeling insecure, and thats rooted maybe in your child self where you feel scared and youre not sure and youre uncomfortable by whats happening in your life, but you dont have capacity to say it out loud. Your psychosis has created this thing thats, like, nine-figured. Its just so wild how were always talking to ourselves and yet have such little deciphering tools that have been robbed through colonization, that have been robbed through the proliferation of white supremacy. Like, these are the things that they did to us. They forced us to forget. And so now, we dont even know whats going on. We get called crazy. Were depressed, whatever. All of these things have a Western scientific model and understanding, but Im so curious about what it means when you stretch it all out and you really look at it sitting with yourself and not allowing judgment to enter the room. What are you trying to say to yourself? I think that, to me, is the most significant thing that I could tell someone to do right now.

And finally, some levity. This is the fun question. What music, movies or books are getting you through this moment?

OK, dont laugh. Ad Astra. Watch it. Its exceptional. It deals so much with things that Ive been thinking about in terms of power. The whole film is sort of a diagnosis of the male condition. Like, why are men the way that they are? And its so underrated. The cinematography is just unbelievable. You get close to Neptune and you feel like, Yeah, thats Neptune! [Laughs] I dont know how anybody did that, but like, thats Neptune. And I think talking and thinking more expansively about toxic masculinity is so much about the work Im doing in terms of thinking about abuse and sexual abuse and the blurred lines between authorship and censorship and the binaries in which we understand power and sex and rape, you know? I just always want to go deeper.

What else? I mean, I May Destroy You , My Brilliant Friend , Normal People are all some of the best TV shows I watched this year. Ive just been consuming art as I always do reading a lot and remembering that I really enjoy culture. Its always been such a salve for me to be able to lose myself and see myself and have understanding of myself and articulation of myself through art. I know you relate. I feel like thats why we are who we are. Like absolutely, our relationship to the art we have consumed throughout our lives has led us to who we are as people now and the influences that we have, what were drawn to, our own methods of wanting to tell stories all of those things have been informed by that.

This interview has been edited for clarity and length.

More recommendations from Risn

Books: Braiding Sweetgrass by Robin Wall Kimmerer, Earth Democracy by Vandana Shiva, Carceral Capitalism by Jackie Wang, Scenes of Subjection by Saidiya Hartman, In the Dream House by Carmen Maria Machado, Funny Weather: Art in an Emergency by Olivia Laing, Priestdaddy by Patricia Lockwood, The Transit of Venus by Shirley Hazzard, Invasive Species by Marwa Helal, Pedagogy of the Oppressed by Paulo Freire, Sultanas Dream by Rokeya Sakhawat Hossain, Golden Gulag by Ruth Wilson Gilmore

Movies: Ad Astra, Shirley, Moonlight, Synonyms, The Personal History of David Copperfield, Never Rarely Sometimes Always, Chungking Express, Mogul Mowgli

Music: This playlist made by Risn, Its Always Gonna Be Alright