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Posted: 2014-03-13T20:03:22Z | Updated: 2017-12-07T03:17:33Z Meet The Women Changing How We Think About Female Sexuality, One Sex Story At A Time | HuffPost

Meet The Women Changing How We Think About Female Sexuality, One Sex Story At A Time

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Corinne Fisher and Krystyna Hutchinson have had a lot of sex -- and they're not afraid to talk about it.

After Fisher went through a rough breakup, the two New York-based stand-up comedians, both in their mid-20s, decided to pool their collective un-shame about sex and create a podcast in which they interviewed men they'd slept with. The first episode of "Guys We F**ked, The Anti Slut-Shaming Podcast" was released in December. Since then, their audience has grown quickly, and the show now has over 200,000 subscribers on SoundCloud.

"We're saying, have a lot of sex and be proud of it," Hutchinson explains at the beginning of the debut episode.

The pair first met five years ago when Hutchinson took a college internship at the talent agency where Fisher then worked. They discovered that they were both interested in doing stand-up, and soon formed the comedy duo Sorry About Last Night . "We are really good friends in real life," Hutchinson told The Huffington Post. "I think thats where our chemistry comes from in the podcast."

That friendship extends to no-holds-barred, frank discussions about sex. The pair touch on everything from dirty talk to disastrous one-night stands with equal parts honesty and humor. But "Guys We F**ked" isn't meant to titillate -- Hutchinson and Fisher hope that the podcast encourages women to feel more comfortable with themselves and everyone to have more great, shame-free sex.

Just don't accuse these two of hating the men they talk to and about. "We had sex with them," says Hutchinson. "We obviously liked them a great deal."

HuffPost Women: How did the idea for this podcast come about?
Krystyna: One day Corinne texted me and said: Hey, wanna do a podcast where we interview guys weve f**ked? We can call it 'Guys We F**ked.'" So we talked about it and pitched it to Stand Up NY Labs and they were immediately on board. It basically stems from the fact that were both very sexual people and were proud and we own that.

Corinne: Its not like I just woke up one day and thought, I wanna interview everyone Ive f**ked. I was going through a really tough breakup and I was trying to think of different ways I could better myself as a human being. I had this John Cusack-like idea that if I went back and talked to different people I had slept with or had relationships with, I could figure out if I was doing something wrong. That progressed into Krystyna and I making it into something a little more empowering and a little less personal. We love being funny but were also interested in why things are the way they are for women. Why do people feel the way they do sexually? Theres a lot of shame that confuses us.

You call "Guys We F**ked" the "anti slut-shaming podcast." Had you experienced slut-shaming in the past?
K: Yes, we have. When we started out in comedy, we experienced some things. One time I walked down the street and there was a guy trying to sell tickets to a comedy club and he asked me if I wanted to buy tickets to the show, and I said Oh no, Im actually a performer. He said, What, are you a stripper or something? And I said, No, Im a comedian. But he didnt believe me. And thats something that happens to us all the time.

Since starting in stand-up comedy Ive realized that sexism is alive and well. Also, Ive noticed that a lot of my girl friends feel ashamed about what they do sexually. We wanted to make women feel more comfortable, and for men to feel more comfortable and to hear what we talk about.

C: Yeah, I think the phrase, Oh, shes such a slut is dropped so casually by men and women. And I dont think you need to be the victim of something to recognize that its wrong and to fight against it. Sometimes its more powerful if its not the sluts fighting against slut-shaming, but rather someone whos just, We need to be more supportive of one another. I think women call other women sluts a lot and that is terrible.

Why do you think that slut-shaming is such an issue in our culture? Are people just terrified of women as sexual beings?
K: Yes, I think people are afraid. Hate stems from fear and I think theyre just afraid of a woman who is empowered and sexually in charge and in control of her own body. And I also think that some people were raised to feel this way because the people in their lives didnt have a positive attitude towards women, and they dont realize that its messed up.

I would assume that youve gotten some mixed reactions to your podcast. What have been the most frustrating ones?
K: When we first started on SoundCloud, users would comment. Most of them would be praising the podcast. Sometimes wed get someone saying Oh, Id love to f**k those sluts. But its impossible to get angry about those comments. You know what? Youre calling yourself out on being an ignorant a**hole.

C: We speak very freely and graphically about sex, but obviously were not gonna f**k anyone who says I wanna f**k you, sluts, so dream on. The worst thing for me is when women make comments being like: You are filthy, you dont get this, youre disgraceful.

K: I kind of expected it from men, because theyre losing the power struggle here, but when its women against their own kind I just sit back and think we have so far to go.

What do you hope listeners take away from the podcast?
K: We want to make people feel more comfortable in their own skin. We just got a message from a girl from New Delhi, India, about how she loves the podcast because it makes her feel like its OK to be comfortable with your sexuality and enjoy sex. And that made me so happy.

How have men reacted when you approached them about being guests on your show, especially at the beginning?
K: All of them thought it was a great idea. The ones that opted not to do the podcast, did so out of respect for their wives or girlfriends -- this one guy I asked, who I love and am still friends with, just had a baby and he kind of didnt want to come out in the world and talk about f**king now that he has a daughter, and thats fine. But most people have been really excited and its been very well-received and theyve had a lot of fun.

C: We allow people to be anonymous and really, unless youre a public figure, or someone really personally knows you, theres no way your identity is gonna get out. We record this in a private studio and we never use last names, except with Jim Norton because hes a famous comic and we didnt have sex with him.

I think that often men crave a space to talk about sex. Women tend to have more spaces to discuss these things than men do, so its kind of awesome that youre bringing both perspectives to listeners.
K: One thing Ive realized is that men dont have these conversations in their living rooms like women do. A lot of our male listeners are fascinated because they want to hear what women say when they talk about sex with their friends. Were opening up that private conversation to the public.

And were in our mid-20s. We dont know everything, we make mistakes as we go and were very honest about those mistakes. I think thats another reason people kind of identify with it.

Do you ever feel conflicted about putting so much of your personal life into your work?
K: Were both stand-up comedians, so I think we do that anyway. But this is on a much larger scale. When were recording the podcast it genuinely feels like were hanging out in a living room and just shooting the sh*t about sex. I sometimes forget were recording. And at the very beginning I said a few things about my boyfriend of three years and what he likes sexually. I probably should have waited to let him speak for himself. So that was a lesson learned.

C: I feel a little bit less inhibited. I dont have a job where anyone would care, I dont have a boyfriend, my family doesnt care.

Do you think that there is a specific value in women being confessional?
K: I think there is tremendous value in women being honest about the mistakes theyve made. There are so many industries that depend upon women feeling insecure. And thats a lot to handle as a woman -- just having all these images of what you should look and be like -- so when you finally hear a woman being honest about something shes insecure about, its so refreshing. It almost takes weight off of my shoulders knowing that there are other people who feel the same way.

C: A lot of times the argument well hear is: Well, I dont think men or women should be talking this graphically about sex. Sex is private. I totally hear people on that. Thats the beauty -- you can keep your sex private. Its almost like were taking it a little over the top and talking about sex a little more in-depth just to push the point home that this is not something to be ashamed of.

Do people think about me differently? One hundred percent. Are people less likely to have sex with me, especially in the comedy community? One hundred percent. I have had way less sex since this podcast started than I have ever had in my entire life. And it is 100 percent directly related to the podcast.

K: Guys can be easily intimidated by a woman who has a lot of sex. Ive never really understood that.

Do you two consider yourselves feminists? Do you shy away from that term at all?
K: I dont shy away from the word feminist. I think its unfortunate that people have a negative connotation of that term and Im guilty of being that way too, sometimes. I find myself saying, Well, Im not like a feminist or anything, but... But what feminism means to me is owning your sh*t. And under that definition I am absolutely a feminist.

C: Yeah, I like to call myself a modern feminist. I loved the Spice Girls because they dressed however they wanted and they rocked their hot bodies, but they were still promoting a really positive message. And I think to say that to be a feminist you cant show off your body or be overtly sexual is bullsh*t. Jesus, if I cant wear a miniskirt in my 20s, when can I?

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