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Posted: 2015-11-10T22:02:51Z | Updated: 2015-11-10T22:27:25Z Red-Hot Debate Rages Over Whether Hot Dogs Are Sandwiches | HuffPost Life

Red-Hot Debate Rages Over Whether Hot Dogs Are Sandwiches

Give the weenie the recognition it deserves.
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The results are in, and the wiener overlords have spoken:

Hot dogs are officially not sandwiches. 

The National Hot Dog and Sausage Council  decided to put the controversy to rest once and for all Friday via a press release , stating that a weenie is "truly a category unto its own." The council's president and official "Queen of Wien" Janet Riley elaborated on this decision, saying that:

“Limiting the hot dog’s significance by saying it’s ‘just a sandwich’ is like calling the Dalai Lama ‘just a guy.’ Perhaps at one time its importance could be limited by forcing it into a larger sandwich category (no disrespect to Reubens and others), but that time has passed."

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But can these wiener guys really be trusted? Should they be the ones to have the final say in the great hot dog sandwich debate?

Dan Pashman, an outspoken supporter  of hot dogs as sandwiches and host of "The Sporkful" podcast, says absolutely not. 

"The National Hot Dog Council are a lobbying group who is a front for major hot dog and sausage companies," Pashman told HuffPost. "They are not credible or objective on this issue."

He argues that a hot dog is, at its essence, a piece of meat between two pieces of bread.

"And if the food itself has not changed, and our understanding of what a sandwich is has not changed, then how in the world can the classification of the hot dog have changed?" he told HuffPost.

Pashman's position is not unfounded -- The New York State's Department of Taxation and Finance seems to think that hot dogs should not be elevated to a higher level of recognition than the common sandwich, either. The agency once issued a tax bulletin  stating what constitutes a sandwich, and is therefore subject to the same sales tax:

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New York State Department of Taxation and Finance

Note that hot dogs and "sausages on buns" are included in this list, but are not considered "common sandwiches."

The NHDSC's announcement even reignited our own debate  -- earlier this year, HuffPost staffers embroiled in the dispute suggested that a "carb 'holder' for any meat and/or veggie 'filling' fulfills the platonic requirements for sandwich-ness."

Even the National Hot Dog and Sausage Council cannot disagree with this. 

"It's true, a hot dog is often consumed as a piece of meat between two pieces of bread," Vice President of the NHDSC Eric Mittenthal told HuffPost, "but there's lots of meats between two pieces of bread, and they’re not hot dogs. Hot dogs are special."

And as for Pashman's claim that the NHDSC is nothing more than a meat group on a mission, Mittenthal says that's all the more reason that they should have the final say.

"We are the hot dog experts," Mittenthal said. "We live and breathe hot dogs and sausages every day as part of our job, and so we really see ourselves as the definitive voice. It's not about impartiality, it's about the love of the product."

So is a hot dog just a sandwich, or has it earned its own place in the American narrative? Let's relish in the controversy, as the debate will surely roll on.

Also on HuffPost:

America's Best Hot Dogs
5) Schallers Drive-In, Rochester, N.Y.: Meat Sauce, Mustard, Onions(01 of05)
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A Rochester, N.Y., institution, folks come for the nostalgia and stay for the timeless fries, hamburgers, and hot dogs. It opened in 1956, so that distinct Happy Days atmosphere is in fact purely authentic. Located right on the water, Schallers specialty is the upstate hot dog variety known as White Hots, fat natural-casing dogs made from pork, beef, and veal, made by Zweigles. Top it with some of their meat-based "hot sauce," mustard, and onions, grab a handful of pickles, and youre in summer vacation heaven. Two other locations have since opened, but the lakeside location is the one to visit.
Photo Credit: Yelp/Pete A
Click Here to See All of Americas 50 Best Hot Dogs
4) Hot Dougs, Chicago: Foie Gras and Sauternes Duck Sausage(02 of05)
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When Hot Dougs first opened at its original location in Roscoe Village in 2001, there were people who doubted its owner Doug Sohns vision of a menu limited to hot dogs and sausages even Sohns own family. "My brother told me, 'Dont you think youll have to sell hamburgers?'" Sohn related in an interview, adding, "I have it on very good authority that the people at Vienna gave me a few months. They came in and they were like, 'Well, this isnt gonna last.'" Now? Along with Doughnut Vault, Hot Dougs is probably Chicagos most famous line for food, and the entire city let out a collective audible gasp when word spread earlier this month that it would be closing its doors for good in October.
While its main menu is delicious, its items can be replicated elsewhere. The specials flavors and ingredients, however, differentiate Hot Dougs. The normal menu ranges in price from $2 to $4 per order and the special sausages are $6 to $10. It is the type of place where you extend yourself monetarily and calorically because you dont know when the next time will be that you will be able to carve out hours for lunch on a weekday or Saturday to soak up the experience. The signature order here of course, is the foie gras and sauternes duck sausage with truffle aioli, which garnered quite a bit of press in 2006 following the banning of foie in Chicago. Defying the ban pushed by chef Charlie Trotter and Alderman Joe Moore, Sohn named the dog after Moore, was fined, but was ultimately victorious when the ban was repealed in 2008. Its a brilliant pairing the snap of the dog against the creaminess of the foie a visionary move celebrated by gout-defying offal lovers everywhere. While well miss Hot Dougs, were sure that wherever Sohn ends up next, Chicagoans will be lining up behind him.
Photo Credit: Arthur Bovino

3) Rutts Hut, Clifton, N.J.: The Ripper with Relish(03 of05)
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Clifton, N.J., served their trademark Ripper, a pork-and-beef Thumanns link thats deep-fried in beef fat until it rips apart, out of the back of a minivan, it would still be one of the countrys most delicious hot dogs. The fact that this roadside shack has not only a counter to end all counters amid its stand-up dining room, but also an adjoining tap room where you can drink cheap beer and chat with old-timers and fellow pilgrims, propels Rutts Hut to legendary status. Whether you order an "In-And-Outer," (just a quick dunk in the oil), a Ripper, a well-done "Weller," or the crunchy, porky, almost-overcooked "Cremator," make sure you get it "all the way," topped with mustard and a spicy, sweet, onion- and cabbage-based relish.
Photo Credit: Flickr / Brouhaha (Jonathan)
Click Here to See All of Americas 50 Best Hot Dogs
2) Katzs Deli, New York City: Mustard and Sauerkraut(04 of05)
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Katz's Deli, on New York's Lower East Side, is a New York institution. Their corned beef and pastrami, made on-premises and sliced to order, are legendary, and the simple act of taking your ticket, standing in line, bantering with the counterman while placing your order, and finding a table has become as New York an exercise as, well, eating a hot dog with a smear of mustard and a little sauerkraut. And it just so happens that the hot dogs here are very good. Made especially for the restaurant by Sabrett, these garlicky, natural-casing, jumbo-size all-beef dogs spend such a long time on the flat-top grill that the outside gets a nice char and snaps when you bite into it. A smear of mustard is all that's needed, but a little sauerkraut or stewed onions certainly won't hurt.
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1) Fat Johnnies Famous Red Hots, Chicago: Mighty Dog(05 of05)
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The number one hot dog spot on this list is admittedly a bit of a sleeper, one that some Chicagoans might even do a double-take at. Its a small, ramshackle, white-paneled hut thats just a bit taller and just a bit wider than a canoe, on an industrial stretch of Western Avenue, a 20-minute drive from The Loop. You order through a tiny window in wonderment at how someone can fit inside the shack, after looking over a menu that includes amazing named items like the "Mother-in-Law" (a tamale on a bun with chili), a "Father-in-Law" (tamale on a bun with chili and cheese), and a tamale sundae (a tamale in a bowl of chili). If youre noticing the tamale trend here, you might see where this is going. As every Chicago hot dog lover knows, hot dogs and tamales go hand in hand at many of the citys storied spots (though theyre frequently not the best thing on the menu). Not so at Fat Johnnies Famous Red Hots where John Pawlikowski serves the Mighty Dog a hot dog and tamale on a bun with chili and cheese. Sounds like a monster, right? Youre right to be scared, its a mess. You want tomato, sport peppers, relish, and pickles on that? You bet you do. Soft steamed bun, moist tamale, fresh snap of the dog, chili, cheese, and a slice of cucumber sliced on the bias its one of the best hot dogs youll ever have. Johnnie is celebrating 41 years this month. Go wash down a Mighty Dog with a Suicide (cola, fruit punch, grape soda, lemonade, orange, root beer, 7-UP, and strawberry soda) to celebrate.
Photo Credit: Arthur Bovino
Click Here to See All of Americas 50 Best Hot Dogs

 

 

 

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